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some help with pronunciation
by Guest User - Monday, 2 April 2007, 12:34 PM
  i know this will be difficult with out recordings but im really unsure of how to pronounce some words. i would appreciate very much if someone could help me...or recommend some suitable software or website?

anyway i want to say the word χρειάζομαι (xreiazomai) or 'i need'but its very hard!

thank you all in anticipation!

also one final thing...and i know it has been covered but please to confirm...i miss you...μου λειπεισ (mou lipis) the direct translation for λειπεισ is absent or you are absent? i can't quite understand the technicalities and laws of this language!

smilesmilesmile

thank you my friends smile
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Re: some help with pronunciation
by Andreas Leitgeb - Monday, 2 April 2007, 02:14 PM
  Except for the first letter (the χ), it's a piece of cake:
It's roughly: "χ" "ree" "us" "o" "mae" in one word.

I dare not try to explain the "χ", but rather suggest lecture
of: http://www.cogsci.indiana.edu/farg/harry/lan/grkphon.htm
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Re: some help with pronunciation
by Andreas Leitgeb - Monday, 2 April 2007, 04:18 PM
  second reply (since I forgot to mention that in my first reply)

about "I miss you" vs. "μου λειπεις"
actually, it's the english language that's funny here:
- I miss sthg. ... (sthg. is absent)
- I am missing ... (I'm absent myself)

PS: in german it's like in greek: "du fehlst mir"
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Re: some help with pronunciation
by Guest User - Monday, 2 April 2007, 07:41 PM
  I ditto that.

The Greek is saying "you are missing from me." Some languages, like German apparently, express the concept in this way. For instance, in Spanish, you can say "me haces falta" (you make a lacking for me), or in French "tu me manques" (same idea). Other languages adopt the same convention as English though, "kez em karotum" (armenian) or "wo xiangnian ni" (mandarin, though it really means I am "thinking" about you).

It is a similar concept as "I like," which in greek can be "gustaro" (borrowed from latin languages) or "mou aresei" (it pleases me). So, "I like you" is "(esy) moy areseis" (or you are pleasing to me, roughly).

Good luck with Greek...
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Re: some help with pronunciation
by Guest User - Wednesday, 4 April 2007, 01:28 PM
  thank you both so much for your help...im cool with 'i miss you' now! smile

as for the pronunciation...gosh its still very hard! i shall have to ask my native speakers! ;) takes some of the fun out of surprising them but hey!

does anyone kno of a resource where we can hear selected words? i was thinking about some electronic spell checker or smt?

anyways...happy easter to you all! smile
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Re: some help with pronunciation
by Andreas Leitgeb - Wednesday, 4 April 2007, 04:23 PM
  The url I provided contains some sound samples, and some
other page referenced from there contain even more of them.

Have another look at the url - at least you should find the
χ there.
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Re: some help with pronunciation
by Guest User - Thursday, 5 April 2007, 04:05 PM
  yes andreas thank you...the page is great and the sound clips are actually really helpful but im still stuck with this word!

at least i doubt i will forget it though!!

thank you again for your help! smile
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Re: some help with pronunciation
by Andreas Leitgeb - Friday, 6 April 2007, 04:01 AM
 
I am *not* a native speaker, but still I recorded my
utterings.

Not so much to really indicate how it should sound like,
but rather in the hope that someone more fluent will
pick it up, comment on it and best of all record a
better sample smile
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Re: some help with pronunciation
by Guest User - Saturday, 7 April 2007, 05:05 AM
  Andreas...you star!!

how cool i never knew you could post sound clips! i may soon be littering this site with pronunciation queries!

again, really, efharisto poli,

melissa