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να τος
by Victoria K - Sunday, 26 July 2009, 03:20 PM
  Hi everyone,

Can anyone refer me to where in the course material να + noun is explained?

I apologise because I am sure I have asked this already!!

In this case, I have read,

Κοίτα! Να τος!

and I am confused about how to use this construction!

Thank you very much!!

Victoria
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Re: να τος
by Szabolcs Horvát - Sunday, 26 July 2009, 04:40 PM
  Hello Victoria,

I'm just another student here, but I believe that you are referring to the νά of Lesson 5, meaning something like "here it is".

What does τος mean?
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Re: να τος
by Greg Brush - Monday, 27 July 2009, 03:54 AM
  Yes, you asked about this in "Na" in Discussion Forum 20. Also see section #4 of my reply to "What a hard lesson!" in Discussion Forum 53, and my response to your question "Na" in Discussion Forum 89.

Thus,
Κοίτα! Nα τος! = Look! There he [masculine singular] is!

Regards,
Greg Brush
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Re: να τος
by Szabolcs Horvát - Monday, 27 July 2009, 05:35 AM
  Is τος an alternate form of αυτός? Is the relationship between these two the same as between με and εμένα? (Did I miss this in a lesson? I'm at 48-49 atm.)
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Re: να τος
by Greg Brush - Monday, 27 July 2009, 12:47 PM
  No, you didn't miss this in a Lesson. LGO does not explain the use of να + pronoun particularly well, so I added the information in the Forum postings mentioned above in response to ongoing student questions and confusion about this issue.

In short, the 3rd person pronouns have "weak" forms (exactly analogous to με - μένα/εμένα) which are common in colloquial speech. The nominative forms are only used after να. For example:
Να τος. = There he is!
Να τη. = There she is!
Να τα. = There they are!
and so forth.

Regards,
Greg Brush